Wednesday, February 6, 2013
The Insecure Writers Support Group was created by author/blogger Alex J Cavanaugh as a way of allowing bloggers to: "share and encourage. Writers can express doubts and concerns without fear of appearing foolish or weak. Those who have been through the fire can offer assistance and guidance. It’s a safe haven for insecure writers of all kinds!" IWSG has become vastly popular with a huge linky list. Alex has had to enlist the help of some bloggers to ensure all participants are visited with a show of support. This month's guest hosts are Misha Gericke and Joylene Nowell Butler. Please be sure to visit these ladies and show your appreciation for their assistance.
I had this post in a draft for a very long time, and eventually deleted it as too controversial. When I first wrote it, I'd read a book that I didn't like. Like, put it down within the first chapter type didn't like. Luckily it wasn't one of my blogger/author friends; but still the question nagged at me: what if I read YOUR book/novella/short story, and didn't like it?
For a while every time I read a book by one of my blogger friends, I posted a review on both my blog, and the purchasing site. I like helping my author friends improve their ratings and increase their sales with the reviews and recommendations. I also get a little high off the e-mail I receive occasionally that says something like "a customer just told us your review was helpful to them." It is the best reward for crafting an informative, well written review.
Some books are so good I forget everything but getting immersed in the world. With these books, I remember what it was like to read for the pleasure of it. And later I'm thinking: Oh shoot, now I have to analyze what I liked and that will just ruin it for me :( So I put off the review to savor the concepts for a while and then, well, I forget or get busy with other stuff.
Other times I have a hard time getting into the story or characters and as I'm a naturally slow reader with little ability to just skim and get the gist of the story (I'm always afraid the reason I don't understand a motivation or revelation is because I missed something important hidden among all the fashion details, repetitive action dialogue, or author intrusion) and so if I skip segments I always end up going back to re-read. Which is a time waste that will cause me to put the book down.
Not forever usually as I just hate to give up on a story just because its hard for me to get into. I usually end up liking it by the end - however long it takes me to get there. By that time the author has published 2-4 books and would rather focus publicity on the shiny new project - or the upcoming one in the works - than revisit old news.
But there are times, not many, that I just didn't like the book. Love the author, have no doubt they are talented writers, but I didn't care for it. At all. I might still try and craft a review, just because I didn't like it doesn't mean someone else won't like the very things that turn me off. Especially if I read comments on the author's blog raving about the story or read other reviews that love the book/story.
Ratings/Rankings on book sales sites like Amazon and Barnes and Noble are driven not just by book sales; but also the number of reviews, and the stars attached. So, if I read a book, and have a "meh" feeling about it for whatever reason; then to me, the prudent thing to do is not to review or rate it.
Now, this post isn't telling my blogger/author friends that if you haven't received a review from me on your published work it means I didn't like the story. The truth is I haven't read very many of the books I've purchased - or downloaded for free. It is hard enough to find reading time (I think I have at least 80 books on my Kindle that I haven't read), but when I do decide to read something, I know I need to keep in mind the author would appreciate a well thought out review.
Sometimes for me, reading a book is hard work. Like being back in grade school and told to read THIS book and write a book report. It is almost to stressful to pick a book from the multitude available from blogger/authors vying for readership, and the indecision puts me even further behind.
I rewrote this post again after reading Anne Gallagher's Review post and Anne R Allen's Bad Reviews post.
I'm glad some purchasing sites are "reviewing" the reviews before they are publishing them. I don't agree with trash talk in a review; but I see nothing wrong with a review that says "I didn't like the book/story." Hopefully the reviewer puts a little effort into reasons why they didn't like it, but a reader should still be entitled to their opinion.
I've read some posts from authors that denounced a reviewer that didn't give a 5 star rating. The gist of the posts usually focus on something like: doesn't that reviewer realize my sales/ratings suffer if they don't give a 5 star rating? or: that less than glowing review, and 4 star rating, came from a fellow author, who should know how hard it is to write and publish a novel so should be more supportive in their reviews.
My questions on this issue of posting reviews is this: Is an unknown reader entitled to/forgiven for their opinions - no matter how faulty they may be - but a fellow writer should show support whether or not they liked the story? As authors, do we have an obligation to like the books/stories another author publishes regardless of writing skill/style or quality of publication itself? Or if we just don't enjoy reading in that genre, do we still read/write reviews because we like the author/blog?
I've seen too many poll posts that ask the question (in some form or other): do you finish a book if you don't like it? or How much reading time do you give a book before you put it down for lack of interest? And I've noticed that authors have a tendency to put a book down within the first few paragraphs if it doesn't immediately grab them. Yet when it comes to reviews of their own novels . . .
Love it, hate it, or something in between, there are times I'd like to read a book without constantly thinking how I'm going to word the review, what phrases or scenes strike me most to add into the narrative, and what questions I should ask for the author interview that relate to the story or writing process. I'd like to be like my non-writing friends and family who say "you should read this book, its good." When I ask what they liked, they look at me kinda blank and say something like "I like detective stories."
There are no easy answers to the questions I'm posing for this months IWSG post. Perhaps if I just toss it out here it will stop cycling in my mind each time I pick up my Kindle or choose an unread novel from my overloaded book cases. Have you ever picked up a book you didn't love but knew somebody was counting on you to report back how much you enjoyed it?
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42 comments:
I hope Andrew finds your post!
I have a ton of books on my iPad. Add the fact I read slow as well, and I know where you are coming from. I don't always remember to do reviews either. (Of course they say the number one way to help an author is to buy his book, and I do manage that!)
If I'm not enjoying a book, I don't keep reading. Thus, I don't write bad reviews.
I think your way of writing them is very fair. We're not going to like everyone's book. No one likes all books.
And I certainly don't expect a five star every time for my books! Besides, it adds realism to the reviews. And the lower ones certainly didn't hurt my sales any.
Excellent entry, Donna. Glad you posted it.
I used to write reviews for books. I don't anymore.
If a blogging friend of mine is promoting a book and I haven't read it -- or if I read it and didn't care for it -- and I'm asked to help promote, I will usually do an interview.
And if I love the book, I will offer to do an interview, guest post, or some other kind of promotion for them.
But as for bad behavior from authors -- I can top your story about authors complaining when you don't give them 5 stars! I once got an angry email from an author because my 4-star review caused someone else to buy the book, who then rated it 1-star. This other reviewer mentioned me specifically, said he bought it because of my review, then proceeded to trash both my taste and the book.
WTH? The author demanded to know if I knew the reviewer. The reviewer suggested I was friends with the author.
This was pretty much the point where I stopped reviewing ...
Any author who trashes a reviewer publicly(I think we're entitled to decry their words in private) is only showing their own immaturity as a writer. bad reviews are part of writing. Even the best authors get them so complaining about one after your very first book is childish and unprofessional.
It's a quandary. I just read a short story and told the author I enjoyed it, but now she wants a review posted, but I'm not willing to post or recommend it --
Really, what do you say?
When I've sent books out for review and hear nothing from that person, I assume they didn't like it. I'd love to know why, but I think the fear that it wouldn't be appreciated is what stops lots of folks.
In private I think you should be able to say something, but if you don't know how a person will take it -- you just don't know how to respond.
I've been trashed on line by someone who claimed to be a friend. When I was doing my radio show, 'she' didn't like the person I interviewed. I did stop hosting for a while. It was horrendous -- the worst part was, she actually approached me for an interview when she published her own book.
Good discussion, Donna, got my mind of fire and smoke! :)
such a short post today, Donnzie dearest :P But it was delightful! I usually have a feeling what books I would never like and I refuse to review or promote such books at my place even when it is from my blogging friends. They know it and respect it.
If I don't like a book, I really don't keep reading. It's totally pointless as I will not write a bad review anyway. I try to write realistic reviews even if the author is my friend or I somehow know him. I hate to sweeten falsely others' ears. I try to do it in the most polite way and I am really careful not to sound mean, but if I didn't like it, I am sorry but I didn't like it.
I don't finish books I don't like. I usually flip to the end so I can see all it all turns out, but time is to precious to waste on books that aren't right for me.
I think honest reviews are best, they allow the author to grow. I just make sure the reviews aren't hurtful or mean.
Donna you kind of read my mind-I was thinking the other day about this subject. I have so many books and haven't read them all. I think we have to keep it real~ I appreciate you posting this!
You did April Fool me a bit, when I saw your post was dated Feb. 6th...!
Yeah they way I look at it, it is the same with everything. No matter how well liked a book or movie or product or whatever is, there will always be someone that doesn't like it. And no matter how bad there will always be someone that does like it. Honest feedback works whether negative or positive, I always try and put a good spin on my reviews though, but yeah reading takes a ton of time.
The simplest solution is to treat others as you want to be treated. If you want to be "honest" on reviewing their book then don't be surprised if they're "honest" right back. And then you're both pissed at each other. So just lie.
'To thine own self be true.' I think you just gotta be honest no matter what. That's what I want when someone reads my work.
This is such a great subject. A writer friend of mine just leaves reviews without stars. Another one never reviews because her logic is she's a writer not a reviewer. I leave stars, but more and more I only tend to review books that aren't written by friends. It's too difficult to give someone 4 stars if they're also a good friend.
It's tough enough to find the time to read for pleasure--much more to read books I actually need to read for book reviews!
Nutschell
www.thewritingnut.com
Great post Donna- this is something I struggle with. I have a strange inability to leave any book half-read which means I plough through, regardless of whether I'm enjoying it or not. So sometimes, I just won't review rather than leaving really negative reviews. But I think it is fair to add points on what you weren't keen on, balanced with the things you do enjoy...
My first review on my flash collection was a 4 star- and I was really pleased, as it gave me some honest feedback on how I can improve as a writer...
Laura x
Excellent post, Donna. I don't struggle with this only because I have a longstanding policy of not writing reviews for folks I know personally or via social media.
If you are going to write a review, be honest. If you don't have the guts, then don't write the review. There is already far too much dishonesty at play in the review system. Ethics and morality take courage, and reviewers who don't have the balls to say what they really think, or who only want to help out a friend and be supportive, are exacerbating the corruption.
Yes, I feel strongly about this. :)
~VR Barkowski
If I don't like it, I won't read it, so there's no review. But if I do read it and it's "okay," I might give three stars. You can't give five stars to everyone - that negates your opinion as a reviewer anyway.
I'm not one for giving bad reviews. To be truthfully honest, I'd rather not give them at all. If they come right out and ask me, I'll do it.
IMO(in my opinion) writers are tough critics. And probably not the best to do reviews for fellow writers. Besides, it puts an awful lot of pressure on them.
If it's a beta read, sure, I'll give the author (in a private email) my thoughts, but I'd like to steer clear of the review sites.
This is an excellent entry for IWSG, Donna!
Hi, Donna,
Like you, I have oodles of books on my Kindle that are half read and stay that was for a while until I get back to them. Some books I choose not to review. I think it's unfair to the writer to post a review for a book I didn't 'get'. Choices. Choices. :) Still thinking about who to murder or is that whom? :)
Whatever happened to reading for pleasure? Today it's more like reading under pressure.
Like most bloggers, I have a kindle full of titles I'll probably never finish. When i choose what to read from my ebooks, I stop at the first chapter if it's badly written, obviously unedited. Only occasionally do I find a self-pubbed book that looks like it's gone through any sort of edits. I can't stand lazy writing.
Alex: I read Andrew's post on Rather Be Writing last night too. He is always such a mixed blessing of despair and encouragement :)
Wow Dianne; I'd stop too if I caught that much flack.
I agree msHatch.
Yolanda: trashing a person/author is never cool. We all like different things. I can't believe your review had so much disrespect for your choices, and still asked for a review.
LOL Dezzy :) You have a well respected reputation Sir. People know your ethics, and you stick to them. Consistency is good.
Well said Al.
Jen: hehe I skip to the end sometimes too :) But yeah, honest and cruelty are not the same.
Ella Thanks. and THANKS; I'll have to fix that date, lol.
Pat: good thoughts there. I try to put a positive on uncomfortable situations too.
Gumpy: I know you mean that in the most sarcastic light Patrick :)
FAE: yep, I agree.
Hello Johanna :) Yeah, its harder with friends, but integrity trumps all.
I hear ya Nutshell.
Laura: the only review I've received on my short story publications was from someone who didn't like the story. But, she read it, and sent me a response, and I was glad for the opinion :)
Thanks VR: its good to know we are of like mind.
So true Diane.
Yeah Candi; I think writers are tougher critiques than average readers. But, we know what should be in a story, so authors should expect tougher reviews from authors, no kid gloves.
LOL Joy; I've got my murderer, but the victim is still a "choice" that needs made :)
Denise: yeah, lazy writing for an entire novel is inexcuseable. Can't wait to read your murder scene :)
.......dhole
Tough subject, Donna, and you tackled it very well! Just about all the commenters had valid points. For myself, I kind of follow Eric Beetner's guidelines on reviews. I only read books I like and if I find one I didn't, I just don't say anything. Therefore, I almost always give 4 or 5 stars and mostly fives. I also read far more books than I have time to write reviews for, even though I liked the book. The thing is, if I read a book and didn't like it or thought it was badly-written, I just wouldn't review it. It's often tough to know what to do! Kudos for you for broaching this subject! It's a bit touchy!
I nodded through most of this post. I get you, I'm sure most of us do. Your method seems kind and fair to both readers and authors - if you can't honestly rate a friend's book 3+ stars, don't rate it at all. I think I'll adopt that policy.
There's no way we're all going to legitimately like all of our collective books, and I certainly don't expect everyone in this universe to even buy or read my book, much less find it to be their cup of tea -- I'm just touched when they Tweet about it or give it a mention anywhere at all so that those who might enjoy it will hear about it.
And oh how I long for the days of being able to read something without analyzing what I do/don't like about it!
Is that THE Les Edgerton above me?? Coolio.
I could've written this myself Donna. SOunds so much like me. It's hard to find books that really grab meso I don't do reviews unless I'm enamored. And reviews on writing can be totally different than reviews on stories--while I can love the writing, the story may bore me, and vice versa. But I always feel like maybe I missed something as well and don't have time to go back and investigate usually.
I absolutely quit reading if I'm not fully engaged tho. I never used to, but as a writer myself I just don't have the time not to.
As we ALL know reading IS subjective. And not every book is going to appeal to us.
As for reviews for blogger friends/authors. Many approach me for a review. I do them SPARINGLY. Because a few years back I had done a few and left four star ratings. I really enjoyed the books, but to me they weren't SPECTACULAR and I honestly believe to earn a five star a book should be UNFORGETTABLE.
So now I have a ball doing interviews and NOW my new passion, cover reveals. SUCH FUN and since the books are not out yet, I don't have to worry if it's good or not. IF the blurb is enticing and the image stunning, I jump right in.
Your post echoed some thoughts/doubts I have been having. After ordering some books from Amazon and finding I was not thrilled with the writing, Amazon wanted me to send them a review. In a way, it is like telling someone that their breath smells bad.
I rarely stick with a book I don't like or love.
Sometimes reading is a chore. I enjoy most of the books I get from Netgalley, but I've written some three star reviews for a few. They had good qualities, but some were hard to get through.
I'm careful reading books from bloggers. I read what I strongly feel for, because some genres and descriptions don't grab me. I also don't want to feel obligated to read them just because I know the authors through social media, but I can say I've read many graet ones. I am always up for interviews, guest posts, etc. to help them out.
I tried to read Justin Cronin's THE PASSAGE while waiting for a blood hand-off one evening.
It managed to break every rule for good writing ever taught. I hated it. Like Alex, I never finished it.
It did provide me with excellent fodder for my ghosts of great writers posts!
Naomi Novack's TONGUE OF SERPENTS did the impossible and made a book on dragons during the Napoleonic Wars ... boring! I did manage to finish that one, but I have never read any further in her series.
Reviews really are the life's blood for books on Amazon, so I have written only a very few -- sometimes because an earlier review was so spiteful and off the mark.
I try to make my reviews entertaining and worth the time. It is a hard call to make. I do not envy you all the requests coming your way. Have a great weekend, Roland
Being a writer makes reading and reviewing very different from the pre-writing years. I empathize with so many of your statements above. My Kindle is full of unread books. I feel guilt for not quickly reading a blogging friend's book. I also hate it when I don't like a book from a friend. I won't give a bad review. I don't review at all in that case.
When it comes to my own personal reviews of stuff I write, I like them because it makes me feel like a real writer. But as far as sales go, I don't think they've mattered one bit. I think I've sold maybe like 254 books or something like that (which is fine by me). I'm not a best selling author and don't really care (I have a day job).
Your post though sounds like it's a lot of pressure to write a review. I think I would have only one bit of advice: don't let anyone pressure you. Life's too short and it just ain't worth it. :)
Love you Donzie and I hope much diet pepsi flows your way despite the fact that it is known to cause kidney stones. :/
I don't post bad reviews. If I hate the book, I just don't finish it plain and simple. Besides, reviews are subjective for the most part. What one person likes, maybe another person won't. I picked up one book that got rave reviews and sounded really good, but when I encountered 5 typos in the first 5 pages, I put it down.
I don't think authors should be obligated to like what they read. I don't see negative reviews as something necessarily bad--not everyone's going to like the same thing.
I think that if you give a positive review of a book you didn't like, you are doing a dis-service to yourself, other readers and the author themselves. How can they improve without criticism?
But I also think it's so important to be balanced and fair. There's a big difference between giving criticism and being critical.
The majority of the times I offer an opinion on a book (via Goodreads or Amazon) its via the rating system. I can count on one hand the number of times I've actually done a full blown review...and every time its because I enjoyed it. I will not review a book I can not recommend. If you can't say anything nice...don't say anything at all.
I agree! If a review would hurt your friends' sales, just don't post one. That way we can still be supportive of each other. :) Not every book will be everyone's cuppa tea!
Hi Les; thank you very much :)
Nicki, reading time is precious.
PK: I know, I had to fan myself back to consciousness when I saw Les Edgerton here. Excellent blogger and author. I sometimes miss the days of pages to flip through.
Michael your cover reveals are exciting. I love reading them; and yeah, it is easier than a review.
Susan: I get those notifications too. Amazon should give more than a week to request a review, lol.
Media; yes, there are some genre's that I just don't read in also. Its nice to be exposed to so many authors here in the blogverse, interesting variety.
Roland your reviews and interviews have your unique writer identity to them. They are fun to read :)
Brinda, I looked at a story in a totally different way before I started writing. That really changes your outlook.
LOL Mike; is that what caused your kidney stones? 254 books sold; now that is awesome. Someday perhaps I'll be counting my own sales.
Gwen; Ugh, typo's and formatting will make me put a book down faster than a bad plot.
Hi Golden; I do agree.
Angela; yep, gotta be fair, as some things one reader doesn't like might be just what another reader is looking fo.
Don; exactly :) But I feel I'm cheating the author if I leave a rating and don't elaborate.
Hi Carol; definitely I want to be supportive. I hope your revisions are going smoothe.
....dhole
Great entry, Donna, and you have said most of I would have said if I wrote this post.
In asking for reviews (and I have asked for some) I always insist they be Honest. If a fellow author hates my book, and says it, I will love them for it, because once they point out the reasons why, I would have learned and grown as a writer.
I have had a 2 given to my lone ebook, and thanked the reviewer for their honesty. Their crib was they didn't like short stories, only novels -- if I wrote a novel, they would read it, they said. I thought they were entitled to their opinion.
When it comes to writing reviews, I'm in the same dilemma as you, because I can't assume everyone has my thick skin. A friend asked me to review their book, and I didn't. I set up an interview on my blog instead-- I don't think giving them a low rating would have worked for them. On the other hand, I couldn't lie.
The only time I hate a 1-star review is if it is a troll review, when it is clear that the reviewer hasn't read the book.
An anthology I'm part of continues to be trolled, and trashed for font size (!), and for excessive swearwords and racism, none of which really exist in the book. If a friend reviews that book and gives it 1 or 2 stars due to a viable opinion, I would thank them for it, but if I caught this troll, I would wring his or her neck!
Yeah, Donna. I know what you mean. Because this whole business is so subjective I only review the books I like. And, like you, just because I don't review doesn't mean I didn't like it--it just means I was busy.
Thanks for this heartfelt post. Reviewers deserve a special crown in heaven. Every thoughtful review is a gift. It's too bad Amazon and all the promo sites consider a 3-star a negative (Pixel of Ink, Kindle Nation Daily, BookBub and the rest won't even take your money to promote if you don't have a certain number of 4 and 5 star reviews on Amazon.) I think they've done a lot to promote gaming the system and bad author behavior.
We're all caught in the dreaded Amazon review machine and it doesn't seem to be doing any of us any good.
I can relate. I can't bring myself to give a good review of something I don't like. And I don't like a lot of books. I have so little time to read that if it's not 100% enjoyable, I put it down. I love mysteries, but if they're too violent I can't go on. That's no reflection on the author's abilities, just on my taste. Then I don't review.
If I finish a book and think it's a good example of a genre I don't particularly like, I can give it 4 stars and say why it might not appeal to somebody like me. That's helpful to the author in finding her target audience and to the reader who might share my tastes.
Thanks for writing such a great post.
March 11th, 2013
Dear Donna,
You are addressing a difficult problem here. What do you do if you don't like the book you are suppose to review? And what happens if it is a friend's book?
I don't have enough experience doing book reviews to speak from experience, but the idea of reviewing books seems to be a kind of consumer information that you should take care to do as accurately as possible. You are telling readers what to expect when they have purchased a book. They have a right to know the truth or at least what you, in all honesty, think about a book.
I think if I were doing book reviews I would try to be honest, but not insulting. Or, I would not write the review at all, if I thought the book was too bad. If it is a friend's book, I would get in touch directly with the author and explain why I don't want to write the review. Maybe that author could use some help from someone who dares to be truly honest.
I think that you have touched on one of the hardest problems for book reviewers or anyone connected with book promotion.
Great post, Donna!
Best wishes,
Anna
AnnasAdornments for Insecure Writers March 6th
Monday March 11th, 2013
Hi Donna,
Thanks for commenting on my posts. Next month, I think I will wait a whole week before posting anything else. Several people are having trouble finding my post for IWSG. Or else they don't want to comment on what I wrote.
Here's a direct link to my IWSG-post:
AnnasAdornments for Insecure Writers March 6th
Anna
Excellent and interesting post. I think honesty goes a long way. There's nothing wrong with saying you don't like a book. That's fine. Obviously there are diplomatic ways to say it, but we can't all like the same things. The point of public review systems is surely that a concensus will emerge from disparate opinions.
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